Faith Formation in a Fluid World | Mark Matlock

Jul 21, 2025    Mark Matlock

In this episode of the Upword Podcast, Dan Johnson sits down with author and Barna researcher Mark Matlock to explore the rise of the spiritually curious — a growing segment of people who are open to spirituality but not necessarily aligned with traditional Christianity.


Mark shares insights from his latest book, Faith for the Curious, and discusses:

🔹 The difference between spiritually curious, curious skeptics, and naturalists

🔹 How Gen Z is both in revival and retreat

🔹 Why traditional evangelism methods may no longer work

🔹 The importance of long-term relationships in faith journeys

🔹 How churches can better support those deconstructing their faith

🔹 What it means to disciple in a post-Christian, digital world


Whether you're a pastor, student, or just curious about the future of faith, this conversation offers deep wisdom and practical takeaways for engaging today’s spiritually open generation.